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Ibbanez

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    • Talon TSI AWD
    • Motor: 4G63 2.3L (stroked)
    • Head: 1G (large ports)
    • Turbo: FP3065
Werewolf Preview..........
« on: March 01, 2011, 03:24:38 PM »
Alright guys, I stayed out all night so that I could test werewolf and make sure infact the bugs are gone and everything works.  I am pleased to inform you that everything is good and the car runs great right now.  It was amazingly easy to tune from scratch this go around.  I took me about two hours and only 3 logs to get the car dialed in very closely with my afr's within .5 of the disired target.  Now this was mainly the vacuum areas and that is usually the part that takes the longest, but I did manage to partially tune upto around 15 psi.  Now on my old Jackal setup I was running 25 psi on a fp3065, but I wanted to take it slow since I am still testing the software.  Didnt wanna go out and do dull fledge runs right away.  So I am easing into it.  Hopefully tonight I will get the tune up to 25 psi.  now once I do that, I have my DSS aluminum driveshaft, subframe bushings, ETS Race FMIC and AEM methanol kit waiting to go on next.  Along side those things I have a fully built 2.3 stroker with kelford 272's on an engine stand just waiting for me to get spare time to pull old built 2.0 out and replace with new built 2.3.....  So I will have lots of use by then and will help in anyway that I can.
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

Kapok6

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 05:24:04 AM »
Freakin' awesome man.  Thanks for the updates.  Keep them coming!
1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD-Ross 8:3.1 pistons, Eagle rods, ACL Race bearings, 2g small port head, HKS/Delta 272 cams, Evo springs/retainers, FP3065 @ 28psi (hopefully), FIC 1550's, Apex'i N1 turbo back exhaust, KYB GR-2's on Suspension Technnique springs, megan sturt bars, poly mounts/bushings

ForceFed86

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »
Thats what I like to hear! IMO you should do you testing on the old motor in-case there is an issue! 35lbs sounds like a sweet test! ;) Let us know!

5 speed, 6/4 Bolt, 3K on rebuilt motor deck surfaced. Weisco 8.5:1 pistons, eagle rods. OEM crank, factory port 1g head, valve job, head surfaced , new valve stem seals,  3G lifters, BC 272 cams straight up, HX40 turbo, spearco FMIC. TT supra pump, 1000cc inj, E85, SD Jakal.

Ibbanez

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 09:55:56 PM »
Ohh believe me, all testing done I'd on the built 2.0.... Now I will tell u when I install my ets race fmic and my aem meth kit in the next week or so, I'm turning up to around that amount of boost and testing. Also previously I've only spun upto 8.5k rpm, but for the sake of z the higher rpm limit, I'm gonna try and Goto 9-9.5krpm just for u guys.... But if it goes, hey I have the striker on the engine stand I. The garage next to the compressor and engine hoist...
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

Ravenous

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 04:09:15 PM »
I've got mine running around town now as well. I have just tuned the Idle-4k vacuum area as I just got back from vacation last night. Seems to be running great. The tune is pretty rock solid. Now I need to creep on up to low boost (16psi) then push it up to 28 psi... or whenever I max out my injectors whichever comes first. I missed the last few iterations of Jackal so I am not sure what it had but the map tracing is pretty damn sweet. Now if I could just copy and paste, my tuning would go so much faster :whistling.
Manley 8.5:1 pistons on 1g rods, ACL Race Bearings, FIC 850cc, Aeromotive AFPR, GM 3 bar map, FP 4in intake, HX-35 with .55 BEP housing internally gated, PR Front Mount, Walboro 255hp. Battery Relocated, Urethane motor mounts and suspension, dual catch cans, GT exhaust manifold, 3in turbo back

Ibbanez

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »
U never know....
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

Kapok6

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    • Head: 2G (small ports)
    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 05:21:02 AM »
Ibbanez, what cams and piston compression ratio are you running?  I am asking because if you are close to me, and you are running the same turbo I will be running, I am curious as to whether or not you would be interested in posting your tune to be downloaded.  I ask just because after I break my motor in on the stock MAF setup, I would like to have something close to where I need to be if possible.  Let me know.  If it's not an option, that's cool too I will just try to do it from the ground up.  I will be in a time squeeze though so any help would be appreciated.
1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD-Ross 8:3.1 pistons, Eagle rods, ACL Race bearings, 2g small port head, HKS/Delta 272 cams, Evo springs/retainers, FP3065 @ 28psi (hopefully), FIC 1550's, Apex'i N1 turbo back exhaust, KYB GR-2's on Suspension Technnique springs, megan sturt bars, poly mounts/bushings

Ibbanez

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    • Motor: 4G63 2.3L (stroked)
    • Head: 1G (large ports)
    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 10:18:11 AM »
Hey there kappo6, I live in Nw Florida... If ur close by, I dont mind sharing my tune and helping out... Now when I set up my tune I tried different stuff with injector sizing so currently the injector size is off.... Now I tuned around this and it runs perfect but u wont be able to just drop n and go... Basically u would need to find the same injector offset for Ur injectors... I have 1000cc injector, u?? I also have my fpr set around 43.5-45 psi.... That all makes a huge difference compared to stock pressure of 37 psi.... I also noticed in ur sig that u have a lot of the same mods as I including turbo... Now I have a stroker that will b going n within a month or so hopefully...But yeah I'll be more than happy to help when the time comes...
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

Kapok6

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    • Motor: 4G63 2.0L
    • Head: 2G (small ports)
    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 11:11:26 AM »
I actually live in Columbus, OH.  I have 880 injectors but in Jackal I had to eneter them as 770's or something to ensure I was getting enough fuel because with 880 enetered in Jackal, I just wasn't getting enough fuel.

My FPR isn't currently set to anything as the car isn't together yet.  I could set it to whatever though once I get it rocking and rolling.

As for the stroker, I didn't know if you save your tunes for this motor too or not.  For example, in jackal, I have a few different DS-2's saved.  So for example, I could go out and tune on a 14b, get that tune dialed in, save it, strap on the 3065 and then create a tune for that, so if I ever needed to put the 14b back on, I already have a tune for that.  Know what I am saying?  If its any trouble or you don't think it's going to work, that's cool too.  I just thought if your tune was ball park to what I need, it would be very helpful to me as I will literally have like a month if that to get my tune down for the shootout this year which is not a lot of time for me.
1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD-Ross 8:3.1 pistons, Eagle rods, ACL Race bearings, 2g small port head, HKS/Delta 272 cams, Evo springs/retainers, FP3065 @ 28psi (hopefully), FIC 1550's, Apex'i N1 turbo back exhaust, KYB GR-2's on Suspension Technnique springs, megan sturt bars, poly mounts/bushings

CrackedDSM

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 01:47:11 PM »
Hey there kappo6, I live in Nw Florida

No way, where at?  I'm in Pensacola. 
91 Auto GSX - Fully Ported Evo 3 16G, 660cc injectors, Walbro 255 HP rewired, VRSF FMIC with 2.5" piping, GM 3 Bar map, Jackal, AEM Wideband, 2G pistons on 1G rods w/ARP rod studs, Cyclone IM, custom COP, 3" turboback exhaust, custom shift box, NGR Type S, stock FPR, GT exhaust manifold.

Ibbanez

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 04:10:53 PM »
Hey there kappo6, I live in Nw Florida

No way, where at?  I'm in Pensacola.

Thats really funny, I live in Navarre, FL now like 20 mins away....  Do you goto bay front alot???  A friend of mine Dan who has a black 91 gsx with a 35r goes out there sometimes.  Im supposed to try and make it this saturday, but not sure, cuz i have to work until around 12:30 - 1:00 am so I just dont know if I can...  Its funny the people you meet on these places that you never knew how close they are..... :)  Ohh and we might be going to holt this Sunday, but that is really up in the air at this point right now. 
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 04:35:26 PM »
That's awesome man, we gotta meet up.  I don't go to bayfront because of all the local forums BS and drama that's out there, but if you head out there Saturday, or wherever I'll definitely meet up with you.  That's hilarious, small world, eh? 


Holt is closed this friday-sunday.  I was going to hit the track before my NC trip on the 19th, but I saw it was closed this weekend.   :(
91 Auto GSX - Fully Ported Evo 3 16G, 660cc injectors, Walbro 255 HP rewired, VRSF FMIC with 2.5" piping, GM 3 Bar map, Jackal, AEM Wideband, 2G pistons on 1G rods w/ARP rod studs, Cyclone IM, custom COP, 3" turboback exhaust, custom shift box, NGR Type S, stock FPR, GT exhaust manifold.

Ibbanez

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 05:36:41 PM »
That's awesome man, we gotta meet up.  I don't go to bayfront because of all the local forums BS and drama that's out there, but if you head out there Saturday, or wherever I'll definitely meet up with you.  That's hilarious, small world, eh? 


Holt is closed this friday-sunday.  I was going to hit the track before my NC trip on the 19th, but I saw it was closed this weekend.   :(

Closed ??????  BOooooooooOOooOOooooOOOo......anyway I dont participate in the local forums around here, and Ive never been to bayfront before......Im not really into being stupid now that Im older myself.....
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff

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Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2011, 12:26:51 AM »
Yeah, exactly.  It's better/more relaxing for me if I just end up meeting with one person or a few people away from all that.  It's more convient, and it's way more fun too because you don't have to deal with all the BS.  There's a few people out there at Bayfront from the local forums that will just straight up walk to your car, open your door, and pop your hood if you aren't there.  Stuff like that, and I would be going to jail. 

But, happy thoughts.  If you and your buddy Dan ever want to meet up anywhere I'm down.  Navarre isn't too far from me at all. 
91 Auto GSX - Fully Ported Evo 3 16G, 660cc injectors, Walbro 255 HP rewired, VRSF FMIC with 2.5" piping, GM 3 Bar map, Jackal, AEM Wideband, 2G pistons on 1G rods w/ARP rod studs, Cyclone IM, custom COP, 3" turboback exhaust, custom shift box, NGR Type S, stock FPR, GT exhaust manifold.

Ibbanez

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: Werewolf Preview..........
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 03:17:19 PM »
Hey man, Its hard for me to get my buddy Dan to come out really, plus he is moving in a month or so.  But I'm sure we can meet up at some point in time here in the near future.  Then I can also show you first hand the awesomeness of Werewolf and all its glory. :)  Anyways PM me and I'll give you my cell and you can txt me sometime.
Built 2.3 and head,shep stage 4 tranny w/ welded center diff, 1000cc inj, fp3065, dnp mani,Magnus v5 Cast IM, meth kit, eboost 2 ebc, ksport pro coilovers, 5Zigen ZR+ 17x8, Hoosier Drag Radials, 10 pt roll cage, and loads and loads of suspension stuff