MTC Turbos...thoughts?

[Kapok6]

Expensive, but super sleeper.  One way to win the stock appearing turbo class at the shootout.  This just continues to show the quality of MHI turbos though.  FP, MAP, MTC, all these people and more continue to use MHI turbos as a base.  Go Mitsubishi.

http://shop.midwestturboconnection.com/New-MTC-7659-Billet-TD05-Turbo-Stage-4-New-MTC-7659-Billet-TD05.htm

[ForceFed86]

Other than for the specific purpose of competing in a "stock appearing turbo" class I think it's silly. I don't get there power statement either. "450hp more than a 16g" ? Maybe they meant... 450hp, more than a 16g? Either way there are 16g cars making over 450hp these days. 

 I don't see why someone would want to limit there comp/exh wheel with tiny housings...and charge alot to do it? If they wanted to make money use existing cast compressor wheels and make it affordable to the average "bolt-on" dsm owner. All this billet wheel craze is retarded. 

[hakcenter]

Either way there are 16g cars making over 450hp these days.

BWP most certainly not WHP. Haven't seen one on a mustang dyno get anywhere close to 400WHP.

IMHO Dynojets inflate numbers.

[ForceFed86]

And who's to say mustang dunos arent a little bias in the other direction? All dynos are BS IMHO and should only be used to tune. HP vs Trap speed doesn't lie. At a 2980 lucas englishes 16g car trapped 125 through an auto. If you count the hp lost through the auto thats over 450hp.  The same car went 126.7 later of the 16g before it blew. Not sure on weight at that point, but this was ot on the "built" 2.3. Was a lazy old 6 bolt.

 I believe mr peepers also went 123.5 w/ a 16g in his heavier car.

Anyway... it's possible.   

[hakcenter]

I remember waaay back, when SBR did their e16g trials. The best they ever squeezed out on c16 was 414whp on an afc which inflates the timing.

But of course who knows anything, but the drag strip right ? Hell no one takes baro readings before their runs.. yall run at -4000ft ?

For everything equal, if a 16g can get you to 500, why does it take a s400 to get to 1000 (isn't it more than twice its size) ? it just amazes me that 'suddenly' the 16g is the --ultimate-- turbo, but anyone that pushes them that hard replaces them seemingly routinely ?


I'll never believe it without all the t's crossed and i's dotted. I just read up on Curts 'stock 7 bolt' 16g with c16. If the power plant is even stock, that crap is just not achievable.


I am a firm believer in brake dynos. If it ain't on there, everything else is just speculation.

[slow1g]

16G plus 200 shot should make 450hp

[hakcenter]

16G plus 200 shot should make 450hp

Always depends. Some dudes might say Q16 is C16, but it is not... it is a cheater fuel if you ask me, freebie oxygenated, +5-6%.

And who's to say mustang dunos arent a little bias in the other direction? All dynos are BS IMHO and should only be used to tune.

I'd almost agree but the bigger the brake, the more realistic the test. Dynapacks are like.. little dinkers on 4 wheels, a stang dyno is a bit more permanent.. a brake dyno, being the most ideal. Aren't you the one who posted up that 460 where the guy had to modify his dyno to get numbers up to 3000+ BHP ?

[ForceFed86]

I remember waaay back, when SBR did their e16g trials. The best they ever squeezed out on c16 was 414whp on an afc which inflates the timing.

But of course who knows anything, but the drag strip right ? Hell no one takes baro readings before their runs.. yall run at -4000ft ?

For everything equal, if a 16g can get you to 500, why does it take a s400 to get to 1000 (isn't it more than twice its size) ? it just amazes me that 'suddenly' the 16g is the --ultimate-- turbo, but anyone that pushes them that hard replaces them seemingly routinely ?


I'll never believe it without all the t's crossed and i's dotted. I just read up on Curts 'stock 7 bolt' 16g with c16. If the power plant is even stock, that crap is just not achievable.


I am a firm believer in brake dynos. If it ain't on there, everything else is just speculation.

Of course the drag strip isn’t the “tell all” but its real world data VS inflated(or deflated) dyno BS. You don’t think that 10 years later with alcohol fuels, great engine management systems, and better performance parts that they could squeeze out another 36whp? I never claimed the 16g is the ultimate turbo, just that is can and has made 450whp.

16G plus 200 shot should make 450hp

Always depends. Some dudes might say Q16 is C16, but it is not... it is a cheater fuel if you ask me, freebie oxygenated, +5-6%.

And who's to say mustang dunos arent a little bias in the other direction? All dynos are BS IMHO and should only be used to tune.

I'd almost agree but the bigger the brake, the more realistic the test. Dynapacks are like.. little dinkers on 4 wheels, a stang dyno is a bit more permanent.. a brake dyno, being the most ideal. Aren't you the one who posted up that 460 where the guy had to modify his dyno to get numbers up to 3000+ BHP ?

I don’t know the owners or the dynos specs. Our track manager just had them build his engine. The website stated the dyno had to be “custom made” to accommodate the huge power they make with their engines. They are one of, if not the biggest name in huge power drag turbo motors these days.