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Kapok6

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    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2011, 03:31:16 PM »
I suspect Hak is right on the knock thing.  Fuelling isn't the main cause of knock most times, its timing.

As for why your afrs change at idle?  Its because one of one of your temp compensation tables is off, and due to the fact that its after a good drive, I strongly suggest its your IAT table.(coolant will be fully warm by then)

Work with your temp compensation table, by paying attention to your logger just as you pull into the driveway and as you sit.  Your IAT will heat soak as you idle in your driveway because there isn't enough airflow to cool it and the underhood temps are climbing quickly.

There is a table posted on here pertaining to this.  Its a good starting point, you may have to tweak it but it will be a big improvement most likely just the way it is.  You will have to search, sorry I forget who posted it and when, but it was either in a post I left where I complained about this issue or one at about the same time.

Why would the idling issue only come up with the 1550's and not the 880's?  Its also an issue at cruise, where it is getting fresh air.  If it was heat soaking it would have done it way before I put the bigger injectors in, not immediately after...
1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD-Ross 8:3.1 pistons, Eagle rods, ACL Race bearings, 2g small port head, HKS/Delta 272 cams, Evo springs/retainers, FP3065 @ 28psi (hopefully), FIC 1550's, Apex'i N1 turbo back exhaust, KYB GR-2's on Suspension Technnique springs, megan sturt bars, poly mounts/bushings

Ligo12

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2011, 04:28:55 PM »
Flow test your injectors, you may be surprised.

slow1g

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2011, 05:03:40 PM »
I have the same problem. My car ran great with pte 1000cc injectors,  the idle was super smooth and tuneing was easy. Now I have fic 1450cc's and the car idles stedy with good arfs but just souneds wierd and tuning is never consistant. I was tolled low impedance are super easy to play with. I should of saved up for a set. ???
Stock 6 bolt, gerrat GT35R with PTE bolt on houseing, 2g manifold, apex n1 full exhaust, fic 1450's, wally 255, punishment fmic,
went 12.4 with 16g at 21 psi

Airmail96

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2011, 08:05:28 PM »
Hmm I think you may be thinking HI-Z.  I'm not to sure what could be causing your idle issue, I always heard that 1550s are pretty easy to tune on e-85, I have heard that they can be pretty picky about the DT. 
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Spectre22

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2011, 07:35:28 AM »
That is the same problem I have been fighting for the last few months with the idle getting leaner and i have tried just about everything I can think of to fix it with no luck.
92 GSX auto, Evo III 16g ported, DSMap, FP exaust manifold, Punishment racing Intercooler piping, Innovative LC1, Tubular o2 housing, 3" downpipe, Greddy BOV, FP 255 fuel pump, FIC 750cc injectors, AFPR set at 43psi

red97rum

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2011, 09:26:00 AM »
What's your voltage look like when it leans out at idle.  I've been running fic 1650's for a year now and I'v noticed they are VERY picky when it comes to voltage.
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Kapok6

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    • Head: 2G (small ports)
    • Turbo: FP3065
Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2011, 12:05:16 PM »
Haven't tested the wires but my turbo timer always reads high 13's for the first few minutes car is started and while driving then after a while, at idle its like high 11's low 12's.
1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD-Ross 8:3.1 pistons, Eagle rods, ACL Race bearings, 2g small port head, HKS/Delta 272 cams, Evo springs/retainers, FP3065 @ 28psi (hopefully), FIC 1550's, Apex'i N1 turbo back exhaust, KYB GR-2's on Suspension Technnique springs, megan sturt bars, poly mounts/bushings

Ligo12

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Re: My current tune...hit me with questions, comments, concerns...
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2011, 06:53:07 PM »
Voltage is not an issue with a properly tuned battery offset table.

On the other hand i have yet to see a set of 1600cc injectors flow within 20% of each other.Did your plug inspections during tuning not reveal a problem?