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OZ Rally

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Tuning Questions on Jackal
« on: May 22, 2011, 10:16:03 AM »
What do the load values on the left in fuel and timing mean, the 1-12 values? Where in the datalogger do I record the values? I'm currently using mmcd with a pocket logger.
Also there's no way of saving any RPM changes, standard, studder box and NLTS. I move the scale but there's no way to save.

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hakcenter

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 10:25:09 AM »
The scale is blank on the limiters ?? What version of java are you using 1.0.6_b24 ?

Copy and paste the information from the Help > About
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OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 10:31:59 AM »
I downloaded the newest Java from the link on this forum.

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 10:34:20 AM »
That is all you see right ?? No box showing the value / ok button on the dialog ?
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For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 10:37:22 AM »
Yes exactly, no way of saving my changes. I can move the slider tho.
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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 10:47:15 AM »
Uninstall your current java, and use version b24 from here.. http://filehippo.com/download_jre_32/9298/
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For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 03:50:14 PM »
NVM...
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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2011, 04:06:22 PM »
Alright got it to work, the 'ok' button doesn't show up but I was tapping around and clicked it.
Another problem, I hit 100% Inj Duty at 6,500 rpm which feels like fuel cut. I raised my fuel pressure to 43 psi and dialed the injectors (750) in with the correct deadtimes. Anyway to fix that cut?
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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 05:36:03 PM »
Jackal doesn't have fuel cut, spark blow out maybe ?

Did downgrading java help at all ? Maybe disable Aero.. /shrug never seen this issue before.  :wacko
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For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 05:56:29 PM »
Yes it did work but the button still isn't shown. I can click "ok" and it will illuminate and save. Kinda weird. lol
Might be spark blow out but the thing is it always happens at 6,500 rpm and Inj Duty goes to 100%. When I was chipped with SAFC it didnt happen. Must be some setting to fix this?
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hakcenter

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 09:08:11 PM »
Change the port the map sensor is getting its source from.. could be harmonic.

You should be able to go well past 100% inj dc, just consider it a coincidence.

Have you tried part throttle up to 6500, and WOT to your rev limiter in a high gear ? Got any logs of when this happens ?
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AMP 2 Corinthians 8:21
For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 08:56:44 AM »
I have the port t'd before the BOV going straight into the manifold.
I've tried going to 6500+ at low and wot with the same result. It will go to rev limiter but with the same issue. I do have a log of 2 pulls.
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OZ Rally

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 09:56:52 AM »
Also, how can I tell which freescale map sensor I have? Don't know which setting to choose under options>ecu>map sensor. Right now I have it at freescale 3 bar.
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John_H

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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2011, 09:10:01 PM »
for shits and giggles, select 4bar.  Could you be maxing out the current sensor?
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Re: Tuning Questions on Jackal
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 09:04:13 AM »
Quote from: OZ Rally on May 23, 2011, 08:56:44 AM
I have the port t'd before the BOV going straight into the manifold.
I've tried going to 6500+ at low and wot with the same result. It will go to rev limiter but with the same issue. I do have a log of 2 pulls.
You shouldn't tee off the same source as the BOV since it vents off pressure. Always tee your MAP to either a dedicated source or tee into the fuel pressure regulator, boost gauge or something to that effect since they remain in a static condition (no flow).
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