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2steptsi

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problems with jackal
« on: December 11, 2011, 09:47:42 AM »
ok i bought a car that was already running jackal. the issue is he gave me the program so i can run it on my computer. the issue with this is i cant get it to run on my laptop. what can i do to fix this i can get the jackal to open up but it wont let me do anything it just says dont use this map to tune your car.
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John_H

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 10:18:45 AM »
so load a different map.  its working fine, it has the base map open.

Its telling you not to use the fuel map to tune on, but suggesting you use the VE map for that.

you need to start tuning at the very beginning, with injector size, dead times, etc.

Then work on your IAT and coolant temp compensation tables.

Then you can tune for idle and all the cruise rpm/boost areas.

Its not simple, nor does it only take a few min, and its best if you have a partner to tune with.  One person running the computer, one person driving.
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2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 07:28:09 PM »
ok and the car also came with a palm 3c for a data logger. it wont turn on so is there any other way that i can accomplish this with out using the palm
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hakcenter

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 10:53:23 PM »
jackal logs, if you have a laptop you can get a usb logger... keyspan, or one of mine if their available
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2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 05:27:13 PM »
sorry if this is a inconvenience. but im new to the tuning of a dsm this way. i just hooked my laptop to the ostrich but i can do nothing wont even find the ostrich. also when i was hooking the new cd player up in the car i hit the reset button so the tuning the they did to the car is now gone. so now what do i do? is there a disc that i was supposed to get to instal the ostrich onto my laptop so i can do tuning to the car with it?
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hakcenter

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 08:47:15 PM »
You are confusing even me.. lol  :shit storm


WHAT RESET BUTTON ? LOL

Jackal is a program... that you ran and key'd at some point. 3/20/2011. That is what you use against the ostrich.

The ostrich must be plugged into the laptop via USB cable. Then load up the softwares, if the computer doesn't make a new device plugged in noise when you plug in the ostrich.. it may have died.. /shrug ??
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2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 08:59:23 AM »
The kid I got the car from turned this account over to me. He or somebody had installed some little red button that resets everything done to the ecu. I don't really know LOL I'm confused over the whole thing on it
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hakcenter

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 11:32:02 AM »
Quote from: 2steptsi on December 16, 2011, 08:59:23 AM
The kid I got the car from turned this account over to me. He or somebody had installed some little red button that resets everything done to the ecu. I don't really know LOL I'm confused over the whole thing on it

That little red button is the reset for the LC1, has nothing to do necessarily with jackal at all. The tune is still there.

If you reset the LC1 with the car running, you will need to do a free air reset with it again.
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2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 10:46:03 PM »
i hate to bring up this old thing of mine but i have a issue with this and didnt want to start a new topic. so i pulled my motor out to change some gaskets and put a new clutch in it. it sat for 2 weeks or so and now i have a check engine light and it isnt running like it did when i first got it. was wondering how long does the ostrich's battery keep when there is no battery in the car to help with it. will have to re install jackal or should i just try to do a tune on it? my computer still wont let me access the ostrich.
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hakcenter

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 01:20:45 PM »
I guess it is possible that the battery went bad. Usually when the batteries go bad in the ostrich, it doesn't work in the car by itself, but if it is plugged in via usb.. the car runs till the ostrich is unplugged from the usb port.


Is there any errors in the visual log at the bottom right, when you startup jackal ?
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For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 06:36:43 PM »
no i dont think so but i used my brother in-laws computer and got things going again. but now it cuts out between 3500-4500 untill wot. so maybe i just need to play a little more with it. also when i opened jackal it says theres a newer version out what do i need to do to get it?
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hakcenter

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2012, 11:22:49 PM »
Quote from: 2steptsi on January 08, 2012, 06:36:43 PM
no i dont think so but i used my brother in-laws computer and got things going again. but now it cuts out between 3500-4500 untill wot. so maybe i just need to play a little more with it. also when i opened jackal it says theres a newer version out what do i need to do to get it?

If it doesn't have the auto-updater, you just need to download it from the original jackal thread.

I'd double check your map sensor vacuum hose connections and/or wiring.
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AMP 2 Corinthians 8:21
For we take thought beforehand and aim to be honest and absolutely above suspicion, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men.

2steptsi

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 08:53:06 AM »
thank you. now i will search for the original post of jackal unless my computer wants to try and do a automatic update. i was also wondering if your still making them logging cables for the laptop. i have something in my car but i dont know where to plug them into on the obd port. it looks like the ones other ppl have made and it seems like it might have a rgb port or what ever that other one is called that it looks like. thanks and sorry for all the questions.
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John_H

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Re: problems with jackal
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »
like Hak said, look into something that you did when you put the motor back in.  Most likely thats the culprit, not the Ostrich, ECU etc.  None of that moved or was touched for the engine swap, or so I would guess.

My car doesn't get driven all that much and sits for way longer than two weeks sometimes with no problems to Jackal, Ostrich etc
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